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All I'm saying is that regardless of what are the current average achievements of various minorities, every person should be viewed, valued and assessed as an individual, regardless of what group that person belongs to.


So does that imply teachers must have false beliefs about how good a typical black/woman is at say physics? Because that's what you were saying up thread.


The fact that women were not admitted as students to many top colleges in the US as late as 1960's did not play any role in this?


Women weren't permitted to attend men's universities, but men weren't permitted to attend women's universities.






So does that imply teachers must have false beliefs about how good a typical black/woman is at say physics? Because that's what you were saying up thread.


Following your logic, teachers with such beliefs are much more likely to discriminate against their black/female students, and so we shouldn't bother with them. More seriously, I agree that teachers' beliefs do not perfectly predict whether they will discriminate against some of their students based on their race or gender. However, when teachers also speak out on these beliefs, then they are already discriminating; being a natural figure of authority and role model for their student, this directly discourages some of them and instills in them the belief that they can't succeed.

Women weren't permitted to attend men's universities, but men weren't permitted to attend women's universities.


Is this some sort of a joke? Did you check what these women's colleges were teaching? Were they training women in physics so they become future scientists? Such an option practically did not exist for women, not so long ago.
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