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Yes, yes, and yes. I did say I couldn't think of any real case that failed on that account except bantustans (which were fake anyway). Palestine and Kosovo are real cases, so obviously I don't think they fail on that account.

Perhaps you haven't participated in enough Internet arguments. Many people on the Internet lack the ability to understand nuance and/or are too literal. If I didn't add clauses that explicitly excluded 4chan declaring itself a nation, someone would have replied "does that mean that 4chan can declare itself a nation?" The clauses aren't actually important for any real world example; they are only there because people on the Internet are stupid.






I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that Palestine is reasonably contiguous, unless you include Israel in your definition of Palestine. You realize that there is no physical (land) connection between Gaza strip and West Bank, right? Also, who gets to decide what is "reasonably large", "reasonably contiguous", whether the new government gives "reasonable rights" to people etc? The problem with such vague definitions is that the stronger side will invariably exploit them to always turn things to their advantage.
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