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I actually meant for there to be a meta-discussion about the values by which it is better or worse for the balance to be tilted in favour of states or of citizens, and whether "the common good" is the same as, or distinct from what is best for a state as a political entity.






The example of North Korea demonstrates that “the common good” is definitely distinct from what is best for a state as a political entity. It would only benefit most North Koreans, if their state were dissolved tomorrow and the country annexed by the South.

In general, I believe that the optimal balance between the power of states and their population depends mostly on the level of external threat. The state needs to be strong enough to protect its citizen from aggression, but not stronger.
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