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DanielLC 8 May 2015 01:08 PM
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Teach everyone to fish, and the fish go extinct. Or in a magical world with an infinite number of fish in the ocean, which is probably more comparable, people get tired of fish. Everyone will have fishing to fall back on, which is nice, but not really worth the price of all those fishing poles. You'd be better off investing the money you spent on fishing poles, and giving them all the money.

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julia1 8 May 2015 07:04 PM
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I disagree with this. I believe that (1) if there are more productive, creative, educated and motivated people in a nation, the whole nation becomes more prosperous. It's not like there is a limited number of fish. There is no limit to human creativity. I believe that in industrialized nations we have enough resources to keep everybody well-fed, but this is not enough to make a human life satisfying. Creative work and self-accomplishment are an important part of this equation, and this cannot be achieved by giving people more money. The absence of prospects of this type of self-accomplishment often results in feelings of unworthiness and frustration, which can translate into destructive behavior. (2) I view a prospect of upper mobility as extremely important to a society. If people from difficult backgrounds know and see that this is doable, this can change their lives, and this will benefit the whole society. Again, giving everyone money won't help here. (I'm wondering if you are serious about it though).

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DanielLC 9 May 2015 10:37 PM
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If everyone gets a college degree, then people who flip burgers will have college degrees. Education is all well and good, but there are things we need people to do that don't require an education. And things we need people to do that require a different kind of education. Should people have to go to college and then trade schools just to be a plumber?

"Creative work and self-accomplishment are an important part of this equation, and this cannot be achieved by giving people more money."

No, but it can't be achieved by giving people an education either. I think giving them money will help a lot more. If you have money, you can work on creative stuff in your spare time. If you have an education and work at a minimum wage job (you have no guarantee of anything better if everyone else has the same education) you won't have time for it.

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Fwiffo 16 May 2015 05:50 PM
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It can be argued that an education gives things other than jobs that already exists. You can like... apply that information.. to something.

a society that can keep its population smart and educated is more powerful than one that doesn't. True it's more easier if people just accept a strictly defined job that only requires a person to minimally not be brain-dead. But if people are smart we can start dismantling these funky economic niches. People are not best used as burger flippers and we should not be optimising for the most lazy way of having the maximum burger flippers!

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Fwiffo 16 May 2015 05:44 PM
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There was a real argument that parrents didn't want their children to go to elementrary scholl because they needed them to pick up their potatoes. Well they went to scholl anyways and did such frivoulous things as "engineering" and "doctoring" and the potatoes had to be picked up slowly and the economy was clearly hurt.

You know once fishing is so abundant you can invent berry picking and the quality of food is imporoved beyond any amount of fish that could be caught.

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