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Should UK, Belgium, Spain or Italy split into several countries?

melian          25 January 2016 09:07 AM




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Dahlen 26 January 2016 06:42 AM
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Aren't they already small enough?


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melian 26 January 2016 07:01 PM
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My question referred to the separatist movements in Scotland, Catalonia etc. Btw, how does one decide whether a country is already small enough?

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ChristianKl 27 January 2016 01:02 PM
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In theory Europes borders aren't optimal. On the other hand redrawing them creates all kind of problems.

As far as Belgium goes, the French part could go to France, the Dutch part to the Netherlands and the few German town to Germany.

In Italy it seems like the South would get even more unstable when the North would get it's own country.

As far as the UK and Spain go, I think it's largely about them treating their minorities better. In both countries the last terror act driven with the intention of secession is a while back.
The internet weakens lanugages like Catalan and Basque. Young people are more likely to not want to align themselves with those languages and instead speak a more global language.

Germany works quite well without any of the Finnish speaking people wanting to secede.


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melian 28 January 2016 12:24 PM
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As far as Belgium goes, the French part could go to France, the Dutch part to the Netherlands and the few German town to Germany.

A Belgian acquaintance of mine told me once that the Flemish and the Walloons would have split a long time ago if it were not for the problem of dividing Brussels.
As far as the UK and Spain go, I think it's largely about them treating their minorities better.

In case of the UK, it seems that the Scots are actually in a more privileged position than the English.
In case of Spain there is an additional (and possibly crucial) issue of Catalan and Basque regions being more economically developed than the rest of Spain. In case of their independence the Spanish government would lose a lot of money in taxes.
Germany works quite well without any of the Finnish speaking people wanting to secede.

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ChristianKl 28 January 2016 02:14 PM
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It seems like my memory got it wrong and it was Danish and not Finnish. The main point is that the non-German speaking minorites in Germany got special political rights under the postwar constitution.

The SSW which is the party for the Danish and Frisian minority in Schleswig-Holstein for example doesn't need to reach 5% to get into parliaments like other German parties.

That leads to a state where nobody really cares about those languages and we now have headlines like http://www.euractiv.com/culture/report-germanys-minority-languag-news-220235. That's in contrast to Great Briton, Spain and France having problems with terror attacks of minorities in the second half of the 20st century.

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ChristianKl 29 January 2016 02:54 AM
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In case of the UK, it seems that the Scots are actually in a more privileged position than the English.
For some values of "privileged" that might be true. Scotland has more oil. On the other hand the UK get's ruled from London, mostly by the English.

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VoiceOfRa 29 January 2016 05:26 PM
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As far as the UK and Spain go, I think it's largely about them treating their minorities better. In both countries the last terror act driven with the intention of secession is a while back.


As far as I know the minority currently trying to secede has never engaged in terror acts.


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