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Is Evil AI just a proxy argument against big government?

is4junk          12 October 2015 12:11 PM


To give some context, I was comparing the VA Hospital scandal (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/us/doctor-shortages-cited-in-va-hospital-waits.html?_r=0) with an Evil AI and was amazed at how easy it was. While I was using this rhetorical device - Healthcare Evil AI. I kept thinking about a deep mathematical principle. Was I about to discover something amazing? Before the advent of the modern computer we had early computers (http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/People/Small/E49-0053.jpg). Could it be that before we get Modern Evil AI we will have had Early Evil AI? Here is my Thesis: Lemma 1.0: All Evil AI can be approximated by an unaccountable Bureaucracy. Proof: work in progress



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VoiceOfRa 13 October 2015 03:34 PM
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No, Evil AI is a potential future threat in itself. Although, as you note, the underlying processes that could turn AI Evil are similar to the processes that turn big government evil.


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is4junk 13 October 2015 07:48 PM
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I agree. I'd like to examine those underlying processes to see what would allow an AI to turn evil quickly.

In the VA Hospital case - one mistake was that the VA was also tasked with measuring itself against its objectives (tied to employee performance awards). This seems like a common problem with many US government programs - take the EPA which both enforces and measures.





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petergast 30 October 2015 02:01 AM
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Added to this, as Deming pointed out a long time ago, they typically use the same information systems to measure their performance as they use to manage the process.

The result is that the data becomes hopelessly corrupted by the need to look good.

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Fwiffo 17 October 2015 02:26 PM
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It might be that the crux is on the "unaccountable" rather than the "goverment" part.


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is4junk 23 October 2015 04:26 PM
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Yes, unaccountability is a key aspect. Any thoughts on how to design an accountable large bureaucracy? For large corporations torts have had some success but usually governments exempt themselves from civil suits.

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