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melian          24 June 2015 05:08 AM




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Fwiffo 24 June 2015 11:08 AM
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Almost nobody thinks they are evil. This includes pretty much all fantasy villains and pretty much every person in the actual world conflicts. I am undesided on whether it is in princple to think that you are evil. The closest I can think of is if you are constantly feeling guilty or have internalized rasism and whether certain extreme kinds of crazy are able to think that. If you are telling me that you are good you haven't really conveyed me much information. It tells me a lot more who you think are evil but that just tells me what good means to you. And when that is clear it's more of a flavour of neutral rather than a flavour of good. You can be an emprist and argue that emprism is good but you can't argue that you are a good empirist.


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melian 25 June 2015 07:37 AM
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I think the issue here is not that may people think they are bad, but rather base their “goodness” largely on their system of belief. For example, medieval Catholics believed that their faith might earn them Salvation regardless of their evil actions (which can be redeemed by sincere feeling of contrition). This sort of thinking is present in secular ideologies as well (including modern liberalism).

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VoiceOfRa 26 June 2015 08:39 PM
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I think you're confusing Catholicism with sola fide Protestantism.


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Fwiffo 26 June 2015 07:26 AM
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If you can get away with absolutely anything and still avoid the category evil, it means it isn't a very useful classification as to your own status. It's a measure that is calibrated so that it categorises you in the good people regardless of how objective the criteria otherwise end up being. That is if you ever violate those criteria you will abandon the old definition and redefine goodness to be something along lines that you fill at that moment. In true ethical considerations the words good and bad are not that useful. In a consideration that is not concerned to serving the ego but rather finding out what is the right thing to do it could be possible to arrive that an action is wrong even thought it is an action one wants to take. That is only those kinds of ethical worries that can be failed are of any interest.

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petergast 31 October 2015 04:11 AM
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The Mafia in some parts of the US call themselves The Good Guys. Really. See if you can understand why they would seem themselves in that way.

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Fwiffo 2 November 2015 07:08 AM
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That is totally to be expected. I would be really suprised if in somewhere an organization would call itself bad.

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