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Link: Reconciling Transhumanism and Neoreaction

Kent_Brockman          3 July 2015 03:29 PM


I realize that Michael Anissimov has been discredited, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything. As a futurist, this essay made neoreaction more interesting to me. To reformulate the futurist case for neoreaction in my own words: Conservatives tend to be more motivated by fear, & liberals by equality. Over the next century it's likely we'll develop scary new technologies that we should be afraid of. So we shouldn't be surprised if the best strategies for dealing with these new technologies look like fear-inspired conservative policies. It's harder to think about the impact of equality on the future. Contra Scott Alexander, I tend to agree with Nick Bostrom that a unipolar "singleton" power structure is superior to a universal basic income egalitarian welfare state for dealing w/ future techs. E.g. I expect we'll get better outcomes from uploads if they are controlled by a single monopoly that can set ethics standards instead of Molochian competition: http://bit.ly/13HBfyJ



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melian 3 July 2015 06:32 PM
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Conservatives tend to be more motivated by fear, & liberals by equality

I know there are many studies that make this claim, but I wonder if the causal connection is not exaggerated. Political positions tend to be well predicted by variables that are not directly related to personality (e.g., ethnicity or parental income). Are Cuban Americans (who mostly vote Republican) really more motivated by fear than Mexican Americans?


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ChristianKl 4 July 2015 12:24 AM
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Can you post link to the relevant demographic data of how those groups vote?

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melian 4 July 2015 11:23 AM
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According to this source, among Cuban Americans, only 44% supported Obama, while he received 96% of votes cast by Dominican Americans, 78% by Mexican Americans, 83% by Puerto Ricans, 76% by Central Americans, and 79% by South Americans.

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VoiceOfRa 5 July 2015 01:23 AM
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I realize that Michael Anissimov has been discredited


What on earth are you talking about here?


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Kent_Brockman 5 July 2015 02:05 AM
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I don't know very much about the situation, but... http://www.hestiasociety.org/site/the-official-hestia-black-list/ So I just threw it in as a disclaimer.

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Fwiffo 7 July 2015 03:16 AM
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If the problem is that the common people are too clueless to tackle heavy duty stuff another option is to boost the general population to be able to handle stuff like that.

It also was rolling in my mind that if someone would try to argue in similar lines for example that the internet is a too powerful a thing to be given to the masses and things like the great firewall of china are welcome developments I wouldn't think it would be that applicaple. Or like past arguments that allowing women to read will only lead to trouble and the printing press is a tool of anarchy.

The thing that controls microassasins is offcourse micro-antiassasins. That there will be a microlevel theather of war doesn't mean it's slanted fundamentally for the attacker.

A nation that holds its nanofactories in limited hands will come up slower with applications of it compared to a nation where everyone has access to it. A nation with exposure to new techonology will also quicker find ways of life adaptated to the new reality compared to relatively conservative regime that tries to preserve the old habits in a new world. Yeah if you damble with fire houses are going to burn but you learn to cook too.


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